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The following rules are changes or clarifications to mounted combat. They're based around the publication '''[http://paizo.com/products/btpy8tjg/reviews?The-Very-Last-Book-About-Mounted-Combat#tabs The Very Last Book About Mounted Combat]''' by Dire Destiny! A big thanks to the author for his work, and be sure and check out the publication.
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[[image:DireDestiny MC.jpeg|thumb|right]]The following rules are changes or clarifications to mounted combat. They're based around the publication '''[http://paizo.com/products/btpy8tjg/reviews?The-Very-Last-Book-About-Mounted-Combat#tabs The Very Last Book About Mounted Combat]''' by [http://paizo.com/companies/direDestinyBooks Dire Destiny]! A big thanks to the author for his work, and be sure and check out the publication. He has been kind enough to give us his blessing to reshare some of this great material.
   
We do not use all of his rules, but rely on a section of them to make mounted combat easier and work more smoothly.
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While we do not use the full ruleset, we do rely on an important section of them to make mounted combat easier and work more smoothly. This section is outlined, below.
   
As with all new things, these rules are subject to adaption and change over time.
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As with all new things, these rules are subject to adaption and change over time. ''For general usage, assume these abilities only work when actively mounted. That is the purpose of them, after all.''
   
   
==Player Rules==
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==Mounted Combat==
 
'''Trained versus Untrained Mounts:''' Horses, ponies, and riding dogs can serve readily as combat steeds. Mounts that do not possess combat training (see the Handle Animal skill in the Pathfinder Core Rulebook) are frightened by combat. If you don't dismount, you must make a DC 20 Ride check each round as a move action to control such a mount. If you succeed, you can perform a standard action after the move action. If you fail, the move action becomes a full-round action, and you can't do anything else until your next turn.
 
'''Trained versus Untrained Mounts:''' Horses, ponies, and riding dogs can serve readily as combat steeds. Mounts that do not possess combat training (see the Handle Animal skill in the Pathfinder Core Rulebook) are frightened by combat. If you don't dismount, you must make a DC 20 Ride check each round as a move action to control such a mount. If you succeed, you can perform a standard action after the move action. If you fail, the move action becomes a full-round action, and you can't do anything else until your next turn.
 
 
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Any stability bonuses against Trip and Bull Rush that the mount has due to being four-legged are applied to the combined CMD, and do not stack with any racial stability bonuses that the rider possesses.
 
Any stability bonuses against Trip and Bull Rush that the mount has due to being four-legged are applied to the combined CMD, and do not stack with any racial stability bonuses that the rider possesses.
   
This ability may only be used with a combat-trained mount. Non combat-trained mounts are incapable of such mobility and response and tend to be terrified of combat. The rider will spend more time trying to control such a beast than doing anything productive.
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This ability may only be used when actively riding a combat-trained mount. Non combat-trained mounts are incapable of such mobility and response and tend to be terrified of combat. The rider will spend more time trying to control such a beast than doing anything productive.
   
   
 
'''Charging:''' Mount and rider must charge together. Both gain the bonuses and penalties associated with a charge. This otherwise follows the rules for charging. Note that if the mount can't reach the creature at the end of a charge (usually because the rider is using a lance) then the mount does not get an attack if it does not possess the needed reach.
'''Shared Movement Feats:''' A character with 4 or more ranks in the Ride skill is an accomplished rider and develops an instinctive sense of how to guide her mount's movement. Whenever she is mounted on a combat-trained mount, she can share the benefits of certain movement-based feats with her steed.
 
 
The rider must already possess the feat in order for the benefits of the feat to be shared. If the steed possesses the feat independently of its rider, the effects do not stack.
 
 
The following feats may be shared in this manner: Mobility, Spring Attack, Wind Stance, Lightning Stance, Lightning Reflexes, Improved Lightning Reflexes, Nimble Moves, Acrobatic Steps, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Overrun, Step Up, Charge Through,
 
Combat Patrol, Following Step, Light Step, Sidestep, Improved Sidestep
 
 
 
'''Charging:''' Mount and rider must charge together. Both gain the bonuses and penalties associated with a charge. This otherwise follows the rules for charging. Note that if the mount can't reach the creature at the end of a charge (the rider is using a lance) then the mount does not get an attack.
 
   
   
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A rider may be pulled down off their mount using either a Drag or Dirty Trick combat maneuver. The rider may either use their normal CMD or 10+their Ride Skill bonus, whichever is higher. A saddle adds a +2 defensive bonus against this maneuver, and a military saddle adds a +4 defensive bonus.
 
A rider may be pulled down off their mount using either a Drag or Dirty Trick combat maneuver. The rider may either use their normal CMD or 10+their Ride Skill bonus, whichever is higher. A saddle adds a +2 defensive bonus against this maneuver, and a military saddle adds a +4 defensive bonus.
 
 
Readying a Weapon against a Charge: You can ready weapons with the brace feature, setting them to receive charges. A readied weapon of this type deals double damage if you score a hit with it against a charging character.
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'''Readying a Weapon against a Charge:''' You can ready weapons with the brace feature, setting them to receive charges. A readied weapon of this type deals double damage if you score a hit with it against a charging character.
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==The Ride Skill==
 
==The Ride Skill==
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'''Skill Checks:''' The Ride skill replaces Handle Animal when used to control a mount. However, Handle Animal is required to train a mount and similar creatures.
 
'''Skill Checks:''' The Ride skill replaces Handle Animal when used to control a mount. However, Handle Animal is required to train a mount and similar creatures.
   
 
:In addition to the uses outlined in the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, a character can also use her Ride Skill in place of certain other skills when she is mounted on her steed. This lets there be one skill check instead of two.
   
 
:''Acrobatics:'' when the rider is guiding her mount along a narrow path or ledge, when directing her mount to jump, or when attempting to avoid attacks of opportunity when guiding her mount through threatened spaces.
'''The Ride Skill:''' In addition to the uses outlined in the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, a character can also use her Ride Skill in place of certain other skills when she is mounted on her steed.
 
 
The Ride skill may be used in place of the mount's Acrobatics skill when the rider is guiding her mount along a narrow path or ledge, when directing her mount to jump, or when attempting to avoid attacks of opportunity when guiding her mount through threatened spaces.
 
 
The Ride skill may be used in place of the mount's Climb skill when the rider is guiding her mount over obstacles or up difficult inclines. The GM is the final arbiter of how difficult a climb the mount may attempt.
 
 
The Ride skill may be used in place of the Escape Artist skill when attempting to break a grapple involving both rider and mount, or when the rider is guiding her mount through a tight space. Make a single roll that affects both rider and mount.
 
 
The Rider can also use her Ride skill to entertain an audience as though she was using the Perform skill. In such a case, her "act" encompasses dressage and show jumping. Rider and mount require a large open area to create such a performance.
 
 
 
: Note: The above clarify what skill checks are used for what, and who makes them.
 
 
==DM Rules==
 
'''Massed Charge (for DMs wanting to represent groups of Arvek Nar):''' Several riders and their mounts can work together to press home a coordinated charge against a single target or group of targets. Doing so gives the riders a number of advantages and bonuses against their enemies. Though it is a complicated action, it can be a devastating tactic when used properly.
 
 
A Massed Charge requires the participation of at least two mounted riders.
 
 
All participants must act on the same initiative count.
 
 
All participants must take a Charge action. Resolve each charge movement individually before making attack rolls: all of the participants attack at once.
 
 
All participants must end their charge movement within 5' of another participant. Those who end their movement more than 5' from another participant do not gain the benefits of the Massed Charge.
 
 
Before Attack rolls are made, the enemies who are in areas threatened by the chargers must make a Will Save, with a DC equal to 10+1 for each participant in the Massed Charge. Failure means that the targets are shaken and Flat-footed. This is a fear effect.
 
   
 
:''Athletics (Climbing):''when the rider is guiding her mount over obstacles or up difficult inclines. The GM is the final arbiter of how difficult a climb the mount may attempt.
In addition, participants in a Massed Charge gain the following bonuses during their charge: A circumstance bonus on all Attack and Damage rolls equal to the number of participants in the Massed Charge.
 
   
 
:''Escape Artist:'' when attempting to break a grapple involving ''both'' rider and mount, or when the rider is guiding her mount through a tight space. Make a single roll that affects both rider and mount.
A circumstance bonus on all Bull Rush and Overrun combat maneuvers that take place during the charge equal to the number of participants in the Massed Charge.
 
   
 
:''Entertain:'' to entertain an audience as though she was using the Perform skill. In such a case, her "act" encompasses dressage and show jumping. Rider and mount require a large open area to create such a performance.
Finally, if a Cavalier with the Banner ability participates in a Massed Charge, any bonus from the Banner is doubled during the round in which the Massed Charge takes place.
 
   
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Latest revision as of 21:38, 11 September 2019

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The following rules are changes or clarifications to mounted combat. They're based around the publication The Very Last Book About Mounted Combat by Dire Destiny! A big thanks to the author for his work, and be sure and check out the publication. He has been kind enough to give us his blessing to reshare some of this great material.

While we do not use the full ruleset, we do rely on an important section of them to make mounted combat easier and work more smoothly. This section is outlined, below.

As with all new things, these rules are subject to adaption and change over time. For general usage, assume these abilities only work when actively mounted. That is the purpose of them, after all.


Mounted Combat

Trained versus Untrained Mounts: Horses, ponies, and riding dogs can serve readily as combat steeds. Mounts that do not possess combat training (see the Handle Animal skill in the Pathfinder Core Rulebook) are frightened by combat. If you don't dismount, you must make a DC 20 Ride check each round as a move action to control such a mount. If you succeed, you can perform a standard action after the move action. If you fail, the move action becomes a full-round action, and you can't do anything else until your next turn.

This check is only necessary when the mount is within 15' of any creatures engaged in melee or has taken a ranged attack within the last round. If you so chose, instead of forfeiting your standard action, on a failed check the animal moves directly away from the nearest combatants at its base speed before your standard action is taken.


Initiative: Your mount acts on your initiative count as you direct it. You use its movement speed on the field.


Shared Save: It is assumed that rider and mount generally act together. For general usage, assume that rider and mount share a single Reflex save (whichever is highest). This also reduces the number of rolls required in combat.


Adjacent: The rider and mount count as being adjacent to one another for the purposes of the Aid Another combat action, as well as any Teamwork Feats that both rider and mount possess.


Shared Maneuvers: For the purposes of combat maneuvers and reducing headaches, assume the rider and mount share a single Combat Maneuver Bonus and a single Combat Maneuver Defense. Compare her CMB and CMD to that of her mount and use the higher value for each.

Any stability bonuses against Trip and Bull Rush that the mount has due to being four-legged are applied to the combined CMD, and do not stack with any racial stability bonuses that the rider possesses.

This ability may only be used when actively riding a combat-trained mount. Non combat-trained mounts are incapable of such mobility and response and tend to be terrified of combat. The rider will spend more time trying to control such a beast than doing anything productive.


Charging: Mount and rider must charge together. Both gain the bonuses and penalties associated with a charge. This otherwise follows the rules for charging. Note that if the mount can't reach the creature at the end of a charge (usually because the rider is using a lance) then the mount does not get an attack if it does not possess the needed reach.


Ranged Weapons: You can use ranged weapons while your mount is taking a double move, but at a -4 penalty on the attack roll. You can use ranged weapons while your mount is running (quadruple speed) at a -8 penalty. In either case, you make the attack roll when your mount has completed half its movement. You can make a full attack with a ranged weapon while your mount is moving. Likewise, you can take move actions normally.

If your mount makes a single move at its base speed, there is no penalty for shooting. The Mounted Archery feat reduces the penalties for shooting while moving faster. Characters possessing the Shot on the Run feat may split up their full ranged attack routine so that each shot occurs at a different point during the mount's movement.


Casting Spells: You can cast a spell normally if your mount moves up to a normal move (its base speed) either before or after you cast. If you have your mount move both before and after you cast a spell, then you're casting the spell while the mount is moving, and you have to make a concentration check due to the vigorous motion (DC 10 + spell level) or lose the spell. If the mount is running (quadruple speed), you can cast a spell when your mount has moved up to twice its speed, but your concentration check is more difficult due to the violent motion (DC 15 + spell level).


Higher Ground: A mount counts as higher ground when larger than the creature being attacked. For example, a medium creature on a large mount counts as on higher ground versus another medium or a small creature, but not against a large.


If Your Mount Falls in Battle: If your mount falls, you have to succeed on a DC 15 Ride check to make a soft fall and take no damage. If the check fails, you take 1d6 points of damage.


If You Are Dropped: If you are knocked unconscious, you have a 50% chance to stay in the saddle (75% if you're in a military saddle). Otherwise you fall and take 1d6 points of damage. Without you to guide it, your mount avoids combat.

A rider may be pulled down off their mount using either a Drag or Dirty Trick combat maneuver. The rider may either use their normal CMD or 10+their Ride Skill bonus, whichever is higher. A saddle adds a +2 defensive bonus against this maneuver, and a military saddle adds a +4 defensive bonus.

Readying a Weapon against a Charge: You can ready weapons with the brace feature, setting them to receive charges. A readied weapon of this type deals double damage if you score a hit with it against a charging character.

The Ride Skill

Skill Checks: The Ride skill replaces Handle Animal when used to control a mount. However, Handle Animal is required to train a mount and similar creatures.

In addition to the uses outlined in the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, a character can also use her Ride Skill in place of certain other skills when she is mounted on her steed. This lets there be one skill check instead of two.
Acrobatics: when the rider is guiding her mount along a narrow path or ledge, when directing her mount to jump, or when attempting to avoid attacks of opportunity when guiding her mount through threatened spaces.
Athletics (Climbing):when the rider is guiding her mount over obstacles or up difficult inclines. The GM is the final arbiter of how difficult a climb the mount may attempt.
Escape Artist: when attempting to break a grapple involving both rider and mount, or when the rider is guiding her mount through a tight space. Make a single roll that affects both rider and mount.
Entertain: to entertain an audience as though she was using the Perform skill. In such a case, her "act" encompasses dressage and show jumping. Rider and mount require a large open area to create such a performance.